Tuesday, November 17, 2009

Welcome, Dana Loesch Readers

Hello, I see that Dana Loesch is very upset about the fact that my previous story was picked up by the Post-Dispatch's blog and is now claiming that this site is attacking the father of a marine. Contrary to what Loesch claims, I am very grateful for the service of McArthur's son and all members of the U.S. military. They are, no doubt, far more brave than I will ever be. Similarly, I can understand that it must be incredibly hard to be a parent of a soldier who is overseas, and I would not want to be in McArthur's position.

Nevertheless, none of the above makes it OK to use a racial slur. Yes, I understand that he said "raghead terrorist," but that does not make it OK either. A murderer is someone who by definition is a bad person, but that does not mean it's OK to say [racial slur] murderer. In fact, doing so draws attention away from the real problem and towards the cultural or racial identity of the person being insulted. So I don't think I did anything wrong by pointing out that McArthur used a racial slur in his comments to rile up the tea party crowd.

As long as you're here, it's probably worth pointing out a few other things as well. Loesch will no doubt try to imply that this site is used to personally attack her. This is not true. We don't know Loesch personally nor would knowing her be relevant to the purpose of this blog. Loesch and other members of the tea party are very forward about their political views, and this site is directed at critiquing those views. In fact, as I think would be clear to anyone who reads the material here, it makes a pretty convincing case that the leaders of the tea party movement are systematically misinforming the people who rely on them for information.

For example, did you know that Loesch completely invented a story about the government funneling activists to ACORN? She claimed that the government was directing traffic to volunteer for ACORN, but a quick search revealed that many of the "ACORN" sites were in fact anti-ACORN rants. Not only that, but the same site directed people to Tea Parties. But despite the fact that this was obviously not a government conspiracy, Loesch just said her piece, ignored all evidence to the contrary, and moved on to her next story.

Or, did you know that Loesch claimed that a HCAN rally was astroturf because she had a video that showed that they were holding Obama signs. The only problem, she used video that was from an OFA rally several weeks earlier. Even Sean Hannity apologizes for using video from the wrong day, but Loesch just changes the subject and moves on.

Or, not from this site, but what about two weeks ago when Loesch claimed that "union thugs" had attacked a tea party patriot. However, once the evidence came out that in fact charges had been filed against the tea party activist, she simply deleted her post with no explanation, and no "oops, I guess it was the other way around."

In other words, if you were directed here by Loesch, you are very likely being systematically mislead on a daily basis. You might not believe me now, but I hope someday you will. Maybe after healthcare reform passes and it turns out that people's lives are substantialy better, you might start to question folks like Loesch and Hennessy who use fear and propaganda for their political purposes.

In fact, I don't have time to get into it now, but Loesch's recent post today is also misleading.

So I realize her regular audience is going to be inclined to dislike me, but I think what I'm doing is a service to the community. I really wish I didn't have to spend to much time debunking false and misleading claims, but I just can't bear to leave them alone either.


  1. Well said. It is not a personal attack to point out when someone gets facts wrong. And there was nothing in your post that decried the fact he was the father of a Marine. I'm glad that you invited people who may be disinclined to believe you to actually come to your site for the other side of the story. Even if we don't agree, there has to be respect in the debate!

  2. Dana Loesch can't stand anyone talking about her negatively and she can't take the heat.

    Dana Loesch couldn't care less about McArthur---only if Dana gets free baked goods from McArthur. Dana Loesch is always on the lookout for what's in it for Dana Loesch.

    97.1 lost me as a listener. If they think someone as fake as her is great, then whatever. They're looking for a new voice on the radio with a huge attitude problem.--They got what they were looking for with her.

    You are doing a good thing here, Pushback. Looks like you got your work cut out for you with this woman.

  3. Hysterical. And typical of the neo-con playbook - if you can't refute the argument, call the person un-patriotic or un-American. Who cares if McArthur's son is a Marine? Good for his son! Doesn't change or excuse the fact that McArthur did something stupid.

  4. I have to disagree that what he did was stupid. I don't know if anyone here has ever said anything in the heat of the moment that maybe they wished they hadn't but I'm guessing you have. maybe not a good excuse, but it is what it is.

    my nephew is heading to afghanistan today. i hope he gives them hell and gets them before they get him. i don't wish for his enemies a painful death but death nonetheless and i don't feel a bit bad about it. the choice between a terrorist and my nephew is an easy one.

    this kinda puts dave's comment in perspective doesn't it?

  5. It is straight from the Dana Loesch school of debate 101. Make a ridiculous claim, post links to support your claim and state those links show it as fact, and cross your fingers and hope no one actually checks the links, and if they do and confront you about the original claim not being factual, completely ignore them or call them names.

    I'm like you pushback. My husband BEGS me not to engage since we know Dana and her husband personally, but I just can't stand by and allow people to be influenced by her ridiculous nonesense.

    Have you noticed she's posted two blogs about Kenneth Gladdney in the past week, despite there being no such attack by "union thugs"? http://thedanashow.wordpress.com/2009/11/10/more-on-kenneth-gladneys-miscarriage-of-justice/


    I'll never get over the tea party folks having Kenneth Gladdney sitting outside the union headquarters in a wheelchair. I think that event is what pushed me over the edge.

  6. Anonymous (8:01 AM), I think that perspective is worthwhile to consider, but there's still no excuse for using a racial slur. I would understand if you said, "well he made a mistake because it was in the heat of the moment," but you seem to be saying, "it was in the heat of the moment so it wasn't a mistake."

  7. Here's a reply from the Anonymous 8:01 commenter:

    "maybe you're right, pushback. maybe i worded it poorly. i'm not an eloquent person but i do my best :) my fiance knows dave personally, i've never met him but when my fiance was telling me about him i got the idea that he wears his heart on his sleeve. it wasn't fair of him to degrade an entire group of people like that but i just can't make myself think badly of him for it. he's under an amazing amount of stress right now, some of it i can empathize with. i'll probably never have the opportunity to speak in front of a group of people about something so deeply personal and be so overcome with emotions that i make mistakes but i can certainly see it happening."

  8. You are either the kind of person who makes racist comments or you aren't. That's all there is to it.

  9. must be awesome to always see absolutely everything in black and white. sonia, i'm sure you're a nice person but the world just doesn't work that way

  10. Hmmm, I just got an anonymous message from someone claiming to be David McArthur, but I'm wary about posting anything if I can't confirm the actual identity. Since Mr. McArthur is closely affiliated with Ed Martin's campaign, I assume he would have no trouble getting his message out, so I'm going to wait to post anything until I can confirm the identity or, alternatively, I'll make sure to post his response if I see it somewhere else.

  11. It's sad to see pseudo intellectuals like you (who are in charge) pick apart someone who has the facts like Dana Loesch. Enjoy your short-lived regressive 'democratic' leadership.

  12. Hahaha, nice! She "has the facts," does she? Would you care to elaborate?

    Also, I wish someone had told me I was in charge! Just think of all the socialist policies I could have enacted!

  13. I no longer live in the St. Louis area, but I used to be a fan of Dana's. Not anymore. Everything you say here is everything I've thought (and more!) for a while now. She is ridiculous.